The removal of the Dissenter extention

Have you taken into account the pages being commented on?
Sure, Censorship of the right has taken on massive proportions and so there are a lot of people with right-wing ideologies on Dissenter that would otherwise no longer be able to speak freely and they are over-represented in the top articles on the Dissenter page.
However, it is just as impossible to judge the content of Dissenter as a whole as it is to judge the content of Google, Twitter, or Facebook, or the pages visited with Firefox as a whole. Your experience is limited to the articles you go to and not the articles that are commented on by others.
If the Dissenter-comment is attached to a political article then of course comments will be more likely to be political as well, but if the comment is attached to a completely different topic then this is simply not the case.
Perhaps some people enjoy leaving notes at cooking articles with flavor enhancing tips, or perhaps someone reads a dangerous DIY article and would like to leave a warning, or perhaps leave a ‘thank you’-note on a page they really liked. There can be tons of reasons for wanting to leave a digital post-it note, and none of them has anything to do with political color.

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*correction. No one has commented to your comment 57 in this thread. Remove the /57 from the address and you’ll see comments.
I think I might have misinterpreted you though and thought your argument was that as long as people are able to go to the Dissenter.com page and add urls to the string, they would still be able to comment without the add-on itself. Which they could indeed, but which would not be user-friendly.

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Warning: Mozilla has updated its add-on policies and is now proactively blocking extensions (as of v60.x+) that are found to be in violation of their policies (Dissenter) by disabling extensions or other third-party software that has already been installed by Firefox users.
blog.mozilla.org/addons/2019/05/02/add-on-policy-and-process-updates/

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Thanks, I see them now.

Three of four comments and I can’t guess why one of them is hidden by the service.

Incidentally this is a normal installation of a release of Firefox. Not a developer preview or anything like that:

Re: the comment about prevention, am I missing something?

I simply installed a signed extension. No prevention.

But according to their own posts, this is going to happen.

“Add-on or extension blocking (sometimes referred to as “blocklisting”), is a method for disabling extensions or other third-party software that has already been installed by Firefox users.”
“We will be blocking extensions more proactively if they are found to be in violation of our policies”
https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2019/05/02/add-on-policy-and-process-updates/

“This extension does not comply with Mozilla’s Acceptable Use Policy”

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I just now used this browser thing called “Firefox” to visit some extreme websites.

Extreme political views, videos of people dying, animal cruelty, anti-vaxxer, pro abortion, nudity, it’s all accessable on this browser!!! How is it possible that this “Firefox” is interested in facilitating bigotry and ignorance???

They should ban this thing or something. Banning is good, because that promotes “openness, innovation & opportunity”.

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Users are not “prevented” from using Dissenter in the way it’s supposed to work. Ease of functionality has been reduced. You can search for threads to comment on. You can post any URL you wish to comment on.

The website appears to function fine in my firefox.

You are overstating the problem.

It is not like you’re operating in a command line environment.

I would still agree one could ask questions about Mozilla banning extensions.

However, for example, what would you do if there was an extension which allowed one to search for bomb making ingredients or components? Would you permit that?

hi olav

i said mozilla are NOT interested in facilitating bigotry and ignorance.

regards

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i will be moving to brave, thanks for bending to the far left minority sjws,
i had use ur browser for 5 years now and even supported you, not anymore.

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Once the Dissenter add-on is prevented from working on Firefox completely then users that would want to use it will have to enter
https://dissenter.com/discussion/begin?url=” in the address bar and add the address they want to see behind that. Sure, its no command-prompt yet, but its not user-friendly either.

As for your question if services that allow you to search for bombs online should be banned? Of course Google and other search-engines should not get banned!

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Fair enough, Mozilla appears to be more hypocritical than previously thought, thanks for the info.

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Echoing ALL of this! My posts are hidden due to 10 people being ‘offended’ by an opinion they do not share
_ Enough! Build a good Browser, and give US the USERS the choice of what we use, what we say, and how we say and use …
Down with Protectionism and UP with censorship-free and open networks.

Richard Hill

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I have been an adult for some time and I am able to decide what is and what is not appropriate to read or comment on. I don’t need a crowd of sanctimonious developers and product managers at Mozilla deciding what I can and cannot read.

What next. The electricity company shuts off your power because they don’t like what you are reading. Or the telco refusing you service because they don’t like what you say.

The silly lefty twits and SJWs that have no understanding of the implications of what they are doing are very very irritating. Mozilla should immediately enable the Dissenter plugin. After all I can easily use it by going to www.dissenter.com The whole thing is pathetic. Makes me want to change browsers.

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I’m 54

Who, at Mozilla, has prevented you from installing the extension?

They have removed Dissenter as a plugin. I wish to use it. It was available. Now it is not.

And I am 60 years old. Recently retired. Worked as VP of Product Development for a large software company. I was responsible for over a 1,000 developers + QA etc. I know how places like Mozilla work. Some Product Manager (or Safety Manager) makes a decision based on the complaints of a few lefty SJWs and since a lot of these introverted developers are lefty too they happily comply. There is not deep thought. Just Virtue Signaling and doing the ‘right thing’. Few of these low level decision makers have any understanding of the ramifications of their impicit censorship.

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It’s available as an add-on, an extension, usable:

Creating an account to let Mozilla know that I have officially moved ALL my machines and work users off of Mozilla. Not only do I despise what you have become as a company and your “mission statements.”

You have severely crippled my business by wiping add-ons and extensions in preparation for your new policy of only ZOG approved software.

Believe it or not people rely on extensions and add-ons to do things your browser can’t for work. Such as monitoring and security.

Even though I never used dissenter seeing this really set me over the edge. If all you can pull out is 3 people saying some mean shit in a comments section as justification you must think we are all VERY stupid.

Luckily for people wishing to use Dissenter they have developers that are working hard enough to have provided manual install instructions… But Mozilla got what they wanted, the barrier to entry has been raised beyond what almost anybody will go through.

Congrats, it’ll be nice watching Mozilla fade to nothing while Google slowly buys and destroys everything.

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What? Is that a feature of Dissenter?

I was not aware that the Brave Browser now supports extensions. That’s great news.

Nevertheless, an independent platform aside from Chrome is important.

Many companies and organisations are taken over by neo-marxists, because that’s what our higher education now produce - indoctrinated people that don’t even realize that they are fools that don’t understand where their indoctrination will lead to, as they did not study communist history. I guess 100 millions dead from marxism trying to impose equity is not enough, they need to kill a billion in the name of equity (equality of outcome), because you need to kill at least that amount to achieve your goals. It always starts with stifling free-speech, because their ideas don’t hold up when you have free exchange of information. (truth will always crush lie in a fair fight)

And it will get only worse because these schools are not stopping. These companies and schools are lost, we just need to allow time to swipe them out of the market (as marxist do not understand market forces very well, this is they say “go woke, go broke”) and build free-speech system and ignore those inter-nazis (international socialists/marxists/neo-marxists). Technology (like blockchain) is on our side. Next economic crisis will bring many of those zombie companies/organisations down, as indoctrinated people are unable to have an independent thought and investigate. They don’t understand the ponzi format (fortunately!) of our monetary system.

Soon we will have internet that will be much harder to censor, as it will be completely decentralized. This is what anti-free speech advocates like Mozilla organisation will push society to do. Thanks Mozilla, for helping make this happen. But before it gets better, it will probably need to get much worse. So every time you read news like that “firefox banned dissenter” maybe it is bad now, but it has good long-term impact. (it’s like fighting addiction - painful now, good for the future) So keep your heads high, guys and let’s by-pass these marxist tactics.

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