The removal of the Dissenter extention

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#10

The future of web is not open at all.

Open should mean Open To All. To be free and all inclusive.

Journalists like Assange? Arrested.
Addons like Dissenter? Banned from Mozilla repository.
Youtube comments? Going to be removed sooner than later.
Twitter and Facebook deleting accounts of people who didn’t break their rules? Sure they do.

The only ones I still had faith in, were Mozilla. I started with Netscape 2.0 and have been with the product for so many years.

But now, seeing that you, too, have caved in the censorship?
A company that always prided itself for freedom and defense of freedom and privacy?

What pressures have you received to give up so much, to subjugate yourselves with the mainstream dictatorship?

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#11

Was killing my self wondering why my dissenter was no longer there…and I found out that Mozilla “the free speech browser” has shutdown our ability to speak and comment about pages and links freely…this attack on free speech will not do…I have been with you since the time you first started back in the day when a lot of people were still using Explorer…but this is it for me…contact me or make it public when you correct this atrocity.

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#12

Firefox is not the “Free speech” browser, it’s the “healthy Internet” browser.
You can still install the extension. Just ask the devs to use a self hosted extension just like the AMO reviewer asked them to Here is an example


click dissenter_extension-0.1.5-fx.xpi

If they need help, they should just ask here on the addons community.

#13

Being able to find the add-on elsewhere is besides the point that Mozilla is making a statement against free speech and is actively steering its users away from finding the tools that enable them to practice this right, by removing it from the only place a large portion of its users will ever visit for new add-ons.

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#14

Banning free speech extensions goes directly against what mozilla supposedly works for: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/

“We are committed to an internet that includes all the peoples of the earth”
“We are committed to an internet that elevates critical thinking, reasoned argument, shared knowledge, and verifiable facts.”

Dissenter specifically allows all the peoples of the earth to dispute facts on web pages that do not allow comments or where the page owner removes opinions that they do not agree with.

Good example: Twitter banning anyone/removing posts mentioning Tommy Robinson irregardless of the context or content.

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#15

I trusted Firefox because it remained free. You have lost a supporter.

Warn people that the internet is the wild west by all means, but stop trying to sanitize it. You only succeed in driving critical thinkers into dark fringes and away from nuanced views. Is that what you want?

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#17

The goal of free speech is to say truth to power. It’s to hold powerful politicians accountable for their actions. Punching up.

The goal of hate speech is to draw hate towards vulnerable groups. Punching down.

This extension has a very clear goal https://m.imgur.com/a/21TZ578

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#18

I stuck with Firefox longer than most. I have recently been adopting more of the services like sync, etc. I tried to install Dissenter this morning and couldn’t find it. “this page is missing”. Did a search and discovered it was banned. My faith in Mozilla’s creed is at an all time low and I will very likely be abandoning Firefox for Vivaldi or Brave.

Brendan Eich gets ousted by SJWs, Mozilla hops in bed with https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/, tries to build interest in having firefox natively filter “fake news”, accepts millions of dollars from google…

Why does Mozilla even maintain the pretense that it cares about “an open and free web” while banning addons that allow free speech? This addon simply provides a portable comment section for ANYONE to use. It’s precisely the kind of decentralized tool we need to protect us from a 1984 style thought police dictatorship. All dissenter did was prevent the stifling of our freedoms. What’s mozilla’s response? BAN!

Did the donations from Open Society and Google affect the Mozilla foundations morals? The fact the chrome extension was removed on the same date tells me that Mozilla is beholden to google and opensociety in any matter of consequence. Let’s stop pretending all those donations haven’t had a massive impact in changing the mozilla mission statement. Just sell out entirely to your overlords mozilla. No reason to hide what we can all plainly see.

I should’ve taken this advice years ago. But I held out hope that things might change. They’ve only gotten worse.

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#19

Free speech exists for many reasons, not solely to give us the ability to speak truth to power. It’s also so we can be a FREE people, unrestricted by gatekeepers and thought police.

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#21

Mozilla makes browsers, apps, code and tools that put people before profit.

Our mission: Keep the internet open and accessible to all.

Really???

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#22

I’ve been using Firefox since the 2.0 days. I stuck with it when everyone moved to Chrome, because I knew what kind of beast Google was. I stayed on this side of the fence despite the rough performance pre-Quantum and the stormy transition to WebExtensions. This kind of fascist BS, though, I can’t forgive. Not because of the extension in question, I don’t even use it. It’s unforgivable because it proved that Mozilla simply doesn’t practice what they preach. I had been suspicious about them for a while due to certain precedents, but now I know for sure that all their talk of openness and freedom is just a facade. You are on the same side as the bankers, the media moguls and all the rest. Goodbye firefox, I won’t miss you.

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#23

Errr. Your examples from https://m.imgur.com/a/21TZ578 did not show “hate towards vulnerable groups.”

They show people talking about the guardian and a disdain for Marxist ideals.

If this is what’s classed as hate speech by this end of the political spectrum, Then now I have to question who sent these complaints about TOS violations. If anything, you have just added to the concern that these are not legit complaints and are just a push to remove free discussion.

Then again, your post is ambiguous. Are you trying to say that the goal of the app is to allow talking truth to power? Because all I see is people dissenting against Marxism and the guardian. Given that your title for this image collection is “From dissenter :(” i find that unlikely, but still.

Would love to hear your clarification on this.

Note: Links and quotes have been Ctrl + C / Ctrl + V from the post and link, If anything has changed as of this post, They have been edited.

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#24

Translation: our overlods at google, opensociety, et al would like us to start banning addons that support your freedom and liberty like dissenter, or anything else that doesn’t align with a narrow political view (aka wrongthink). So please bear with us while we continue to offer you lips service about freedom and openness while at the same time restricting it. But, we promise we’ll do it slowly and over a protracted time window so you don’t notice.

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#25

Not you, not my browser and not google. Tech companies need to focus on making good tech, not trying to be the arbiters of social justice. Your job is make a good browser. Full stop.

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#26

Translation: question 7, box 1.

#27

Yet mozilla just banned an addon that was made specifically for sharing views from anyone and everyone. dissenter… This is all pretense. Mozilla sold out to their overlords google and opensociety.org They don’t care about any of this, they give you lip service while removing your freedom in so many ways.

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Mozilla Worldview Project Principle #1
#31

Its going to be interesting to see what your original comment was that a person would flag it. My original post was flagged and hidden as well but it appears to be restored.

If its as you describe, a definition of free speech, then getting flagged is a perfect example of the problem that Dissenter was designed to combat.

Ideological censorship is real, and short of gross and untruthful misrepresentations, I have yet to see any reasoned coherent explanation for removal of the Dissenter addon.

I doubt its possible to give a ‘real’ reason for the removal, its all going to be doublespeak and unearned virtue signalling.

Free speech is fundamental to freedom, its the main tool to protect everyone against dictatorships tyranny and of course the boogeyman of recent years FASCISM

This professor of linguistics says it much better though:

I did a quick search of mozilla.org and found zero references to ‘free speech’, I wonder if there used to be a statement on the same and if it was removed?

https://www.google.com/search?&q=site%3Awww.mozilla.org+"free+speech"

Anyways the point of this post was to ask to see your original.

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#32

You wont always agree with free speech, this is the point. Mainstream Media control a narrow narrative that they want you to see. It often chooses not to cover stories or output highly misleading content.

Surely you are not saying free speech is bad? It’s the first amendment for a reason. Free speech includes speech you don’t like.

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#33

Yes, its goal is free speech. There is no such thing as hate speech, its a meaningless term designed to allow a tiny group to spoon feed you news and control the narrative; is that what you want? To be a drone who is told what to think?

People need to toughen up, don’t like what Dissenter says (it’s the most civilized comment thread I’ve ever seen btw) then don’t install the extension. What’s the problem?

Would you shut down all speech that offends anyone? Who should decide this stuff?

Even this thread will probably be closed. You’re begging to be a drone, wake up.

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#34

After more than 10 years using Firefox, even in the worst days i keep Firefox because “A non-profit with one mission: defend the free and open web” but with this censorship, i em going to brave now.

really disappointing, i really regret helping in the code, simple thing years ago but now i regret every single help i lend to Mozilla.

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