Any Chance Tab Groups Will Ever Come?

Maybe this isn’t the right place to ask about this, so apologies ahead of time.

Do we think Firefox is ever going to get tab groups the way Chromium has them? Before someone says no, I want to know why, is there a technical reason for this?

The reason I’m asking is that some features in browsers are “nice to haves”, but other features are becoming standard features that all browsers kinda need to have to compete in any real way. IMO tab groups has become exactly this and for me it’s the primary reason I do not use Firefox anymore despite how much I prefer certain aspects of it.

The thing is, one can overlook smaller things, like slightly worse performance, some feature differences, etc… But tab groups has become a staple and I think this is something that Mozilla should be looking into. Not only that, but (and I’m by no means a dev), it doesn’t seem like it’d be that hard of a thing to do?

I personally keep huge numbers of tabs open that I do want active and without tab grouping this becomes completely unmanageable.

Lastly I’ll say that a 3rd party extension is not the solution for this, so before someone suggestions it I’m aware things like OneTab and other alternatives exist, but they are by no means user friendly.

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There are several issues to follow in Bugzilla and Mozilla Connect:




(and probably more)

https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/forums/searchpage/tab/message?advanced=false&allow_punctuation=false&q=tab%20groups

And lastly, take another look at the extensions. More may have been added, and the extensions you previously tested might have been improved.

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Hey thanks I really appreciate all the info here!

As for using extensions, even if they work better/more similar to Chrome I personally limit extensions as much as possible for security purposes so I’m not sure I’d consider that a full solution.

This all makes more sense to me now though so thanks for all the resources!

Completely agree. Other than Ublock, NoScript and No-cache, the rest needs to be in Firefox. (and I wouldn’t complain if those were made part of Firefox either) Tab groups would be a welcomed enhancement.

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Yeah for sure, the more “core” like features that can be directly integrated the better IMO. But I’m even more weary with something that has access to all tabs and browser data.

The available extensions do NOT offer the correct functionality, and nobody seems to have any answers about why they haven’t implemented it yet. It seems like a simple UI addition, no? Firefox’s UI is already very modular, so I am confused on what the issue is.

No, it doesn’t seem like a simple UI addition to me. The basics seem relatively simple, but to get everything to work correctly in every situation requires a huge amount of integration and testing – and then maintaining the feature.

(A co-worker and I once implemented a “simple” new feature in three days just to prove it could be done and would be useful. (This wasn’t a Mozilla project.) It took several people three months to get it fully implemented in the code base, with high quality code, looking correct instead of hacked-in, with appropriate documentation, and with automated tests. Simple to describe doesn’t mean simple to make product quality.)

The simple reason for why it hasn’t been implemented is that no one has been willing to put in the resources to implement it fully and correctly.

Yeah I think you’re right here, it’s still something that keeps me from being willing to use it as my primary browser though. I just worry, Firefox has been losing market share and continues to fall behind other options when it comes to features, things like no tab groups, removal of the SSB (PWA support), etc…

Oh, but that’s not true. I can explain it simply:
Mozilla have killed all the API calls required to implement tab groups.

It’s simple as that. With the (web)API change they have killed about 90% of the relevant extensions (which actually made Firefox different from other browsers) on the altar or Stability And Simplicity™. Some open bugs are there since before even the API went public and still unresolved, most others were closed years ago by the developers as “we don’t care”, “sounds nice but no”.

If you check the extensions you’ll find many “tab groups” ones and you will quickly realise that none of them can actually do squat about tabs, they all try to sort them into windows, menus, tree lists and whatever, display or hide them, trying to use the half-baked API collection what there is.

I got tired asking about this, and extremely important stuff like password management, because issues were closed, pushed into oblivion or put into stasis. For years now, and counting.