By the way @williamr is on the group as a admin but he left Mozilla, Dave Hylands is still with Mozilla
I was thinking maybe keeping the group on facebook and getting rid of the mailing list but then possible getting a contributors category on this or @emma_irwin suggested to me a while ago about merging it with Guides but I believe guides is getting taking down
Iâm agree with that, Mozilla have a big problem of fragmentation for all the service that they use for manage the community.
Is a chance to improve our effort as admins of Mozilla Contributors in a âstandard mozilla wayâ with discourse in a real forum not a fb group (with all the limit of that platform).
Discourse would be awesome however its not active I post something on stackoverflow and get reply within minutes on discourse it would be nice to see that. I know stackoverflow is huge, but i was apart of a forum with just 5000 members and posts would come in instantly, even just frinedly posts if not directly helpful to the topic question. I think these frinedly posts build morale/community.
Whatâs the current problem you want to solve?
For all contributors to have a place to hang out and speak to each other also for them to ask contributor related questions
Why did you start this?
As I know we have yammer but there is a lot of contributors on social media
What are the so-far outcomes of what youâve been doing? What is working? What isnât?
We did not set up any out comes but I can tell you we have a lot of people on the channel but they dont seam to post also the like page was getting liked
the idea for the like page was for contributors to ask questions about contributing at Mozilla also for newbies to find out about contributors at Mozilla
PS for @AprilMorone I have filled a bug out for the mailing list to be deleted I said on the bug about the spam
So first of all @williamr is still a Rep, and so still with Mozilla as far as Iâm concerned.
secondly I really donât want to see any new solutions that involve a mailing list as a collaborative solution. One way âinfoâ news, sure, but not for this purpose.
I think FB can be great for private groups, where people feel they need a safe place to talk etc. Or they are a compliment to an existing channel(mailing list) but usually thatâs more divisive than complimentary.
Stackoverflow is an established forum, with investment of community and leadership over a number of years. Discourse at Mozilla is just getting going, but has the same huge potential with investment. Abandoning ship when itâs not active right away - will just lead to more of the same.
I would encourage you to invite more contributors here, if they feel they need a specific forum âcontributorsâ then we can probably do that. The nice thing about Discourse is we can see each other. We donât need to go elsewhere to find out about Reps, or Community Ops, itâs all here -it connects us.
Yes, it was the idea of the Like page for people to ask questions, but they still mainly ask questions on the main group group on FB or in private message to me on FB (and sometimes in private to me via e-mail letter, instead of e-mailing to the Mozilla Contributors e-mail address of group. Should we nix that or keep that, too, still, of the Like page on FB?
Thanks for asking @emma Iâm not sure how to get to that point. But I remember I used to be apart of a community which felt very tight knit. Someone posted saying that wanted a new avatar and a bunch of graphics people would offer a version within hours (only 5k members on that site with just a few hundred active).
People would be passionately writing tutorials on various stuff and other users would help review them on request.
Like Iâve been stuck asking someone to test my addon on a multi-monitor mac setup for a few days now, Im certain if I was on that community someone would have tested for me within minutes if not hours.
The way that community I think did it, was by creating teams out of the regular users. Creating user groups and putting them there. It took a lot of work so a dedicated stuff was put in place.
The community is still alive today although I am not apart of it so canât vouch for how itâs doing but it seems pretty good: http://www.neocodex.us
But if we could get a community like that in the Mozilla/Firefox zone that would be spectacular. A mix of dev, non-devs, fans, etc. Iâm not sure how to go about it though, as implementing a staff before the community base exists will just make the staff a failed experiement and will make us think twice before trying it again. The community i mentioned saw the users were getting active, as in the beginning all new members are very passionaite, so they were active between each other without any staff involvment. Then they put in a place to continue to fuel that collaboration between members socially. I think they got lucky to do that at the right time, as if you wait to long members lose their passion. And still even after staff came in people do eventually maybe move on.
I just recall that every member of that forum became a valuble contributor somehow. I would love to see that in Firefox. Disclaimer haha This isnt a plug to make me staff I actually do a ton of development and wonât have time for those staff activities.